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Hi folks this is more of a Q&A as I plan to walk the track with a friend starting May 2014 I am looking to carry the least weight possible. I am fiftyish 5 foot 5 and around 60 kg so the lighter the better. Also any info on other gear tricks you may have.

thanks

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In the past I used a gas canister stove such as the MSR Pocket Rocket and would consider that style of stove as an option as I believe gas canisters are fairly easy to obtain now days in the towns along the Track.

That said, my approach has changed somewhat and with my relatively recent cycling tour where access to gas canisters was going to be limited, I re-looked at my options and when with an alcohol stove which is now my go to stove because of its quietness, simplicity and relaxed approach to boiling water (if that makes sense).

My alcohol stove setup of choice is Trail Design's Sidewinder Ti-Tri Cooking System but there are other options.  I find that can do breakfast, cup of tea at lunch and dinner on around 50 to 60 ml of fuel so the efficiency is fine for me.

I also suggest checking out Hiker Jim's blog on stoves and the Australian Bushwalking forums. Lots of ideas and good advice to be found

Regards

Andrew

Thanks I have a jet boil canister stove but was concerned about carry extra canisters versus bottle of alcohol. I have a friend who uses whisper lite msr. To noisy in my book. Also the walk in walk rubbish policy could be an issue.

Hi Deborah . I would recommend using a Tranja Stove the reasoning being that you can usually get metho anywhere and you can see how much fuel you have left ,gas stoves have different types of bottles and it is often hard to get the one that you need . The fancy pump up types usually have valve problems . My Tranja is over thirty years old now . I do have gas stoves but will only use them on a day walk . With your gear do not take any gear that you think might be handy , only take what you need .If you get a Tranja buy a little funnel so that you can drain any left over metho back into the container when you have finished cooking .

Don     

Hi Deborah

With most equipment it comes down to personal preference. I have tone the track a few times now and others around Australia and the world. My pref is gas. I have a Korea stove really light weight and just have the canisters. I have learnt how much my stove uses and am very rarely carrying out the cylinder as rubbish.
Some like liquid fuel types as you can use vessels that will compact as you use the fuel. Some people love trangia. Personally I find it too big and the idea of using the fuel, especially to put it out scares the heabies out of me. All have pros and cons...it will be what you feel most comfortable with.

Tina....aka Snoopy
Trangia is definately the best if there are 2 of you to share the load. You would need too many gas cannisters on the long stretches. Also you cant beat them in windy or stormy conditions.

Thanks for the reply

I had lined up a friend to do the walk with me but it looks like I may be walking on my own.

do you make any of your own meals ?

 

hello again Deborah,

you are about the same dimensions as my wife, she doesn't need to carry much weight, she has the advantage of a pack animal...me!

Depending which school of thought, they say you should not carry more than 25% of your body weight so in your case 15kg and definitely no more than 1/3 your body weight.

Regarding stoves, as with the filters and water carrying there are again 100 different preferences.

I started my outdoor experiences with what was called a cooking fire and you still can't beat that if you have the skill to ignite one in all weather. However once at Mt Chance if you are southbound fires are a no no and it's fuel stove territory.

My first stove was a simple metho stove, pretty much like a trangia but without the screen and pots. Worked fine and I gave one of these to a mate's brother when it was past the use by date. He still uses it 20 years on.

The drawback with metho is that it does not generate the same heat as other fuels and is susceptible to wind more than pressure type delivery fuels. So with less thermal efficiency the more fuel you need to carry.

I generally use an MSR Whisper-lite international fuel stove which can multi-fuel though I generally only run shellite.

Very noisy but very efficient and I don't know what the whisper refers to. More bang per litre of fuel. Don't even consider lighting one inside a tent though once going they are quite safe.

I have had various gas stoves and currently use, on occasion, a Kovea Titanium stove that weighs either 65 or 80 grams from memory but alas you need canisters of gas to fuel it and they are bulky particularly if you are making lots of cuppas so use lots of fuel. Then you have to dispose of the empties which means carrying them til you reach a town or pissing Bibbulmun Track Volunteers off by leaving them in shelters.

I would work out how much cooking, beveraging you intend to do, buy a multi-fuel stove, learn how to use it, practice at home and work out how much fuel you need to do your daily heating. Then you will know how much you need to carry between towns.

If you wanted to have fuel drops at some select sites  between Dog Pool and Denmark I am sure I could assist.

With regards other equipment, a good sleeping mat (full length if you have bony ankles), a good sleeping bag (look at the temperatures for Bridgetown to get an idea of bottom end minimums) and as May brings a lot of showers between the greatest of days in the South West, a good quality rain jacket.

I, like others, can offer a range of advice but only your own experiences will establish what is best for you.

regards

Alex

Hi Alex

thanks for the info I am mainly looking to use the stove to boil water type cooking and tea & coffee.

I'm interested in how many days food you carry.

I think I'm leaning towards the camel pack for my water the bottles sound bulky, and I am sure I would leave one behind. 

Deb... if that's OK,

I can carry up to a month (on hair shirt journeys) but if I were doing the Bibbulmun or the Hume Hovel or the AAWT I would be looking at access points that would give me a food drop at as generous intervals as possible, but that really has something to do with luxuries. The last time I took a mate from the east from Northcliffe to Walpole, Woolbales was the only site I had not done a drop (Red wine, assorted cheeses, caviar, whiskey and so on but it did take as long as the actual walk to deposit this decadence. If I was walking alone I most likely would have had no drops. I am in no way a walking "purist" but I have walked in parts of the world that people would envy and never have the chance to do what I have been privileged to do.  Bottom line, walk easy or walk hard, if you can manage drops that'd be  the easy, if you can't drop it may be you don't need the Cherry Ripe and have to endure the lentils and rice.  In respect to another inquiry in the string "do you do your own food" I sometimes do (my own dehydrator)  sometimes it is easier to use commercial freeze dry. It is about sustenance. The whisky (real reason for drops) washes it all down.  If you want an in depth chat on these matters give me a call.. contact alexjw@bordernet.com.au and I can give you a number to call.

 walk easy... we are not 19.  And on another string (the word game) watch out for the ducks at Lake Maringup!

Alex

PS... don't let Don or Snoopy lure you into their silly word game!! It is addictive.

Alex

Nothing wrong with our silly word game... Come and give it a go, Deb. Alex plays all the time.

Word games sound like fun. Anatidaephobia ???? 

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